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reversion re Bob Couttie

This edit caught my eye. I've reverted it without much thought or research, hoping for some WP:BRD discussion here, even though I'm currently busy outside of WP and may not be able to participate. The edit removed "Constantino's analysis has been criticised [...]" from the article, saying: Some essay on Scribd is not a reliable source. Well, yes. However, the scribd essay says only that Constantino's "Veneration Without Understanding" has been unchallenged for decades, until now [, but] Bob Couttie has put it in a new and disturbing light]" -- that is, neither the essay nor scribd take a POV position other than to cast Couttie in the light of a source deserving of consideration based on credentials they summarize. The essay says that Couttie "puts Constantino under the microscope" but, unfortunately, does not cite a source where the details of Couttie's microscopic analysis can be examined. Can we trust scribd not to blow Coutties bonafides out of proportion and not to misrepresent its assertion that Couttie has looked through that miscroscope and, in some undisclosed forum, reported what he thinks he saw there? If the answer to that is yes, it seems to me that this ought to stay in or (better) be replaced with an assertion which cites a supporting source which discusses what Couttie sees through his microscope.

OTOH, I see that Bob Couttie is a redlink. Perhaps Couttie doesn't meet WP:GNG and his writings don't meet WP:DUE. (written in a rush) Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 17:50, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

what are you going stunt 158.62.50.107 (talk) 13:31, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

In the introduction it says he is 'tagged as the national hero of the filipino people'. I'm guessing this was written/translated by someone without english as the first language but either way as written the wording feels clumsy.

I think it is.Khamer Jun Manalo (chat) 07:45, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Khamer Jun Manalo (chat) 07:48, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2021

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Please Change "A plaque marks the Heidelberg building where he trained with Professor Becker while in Wilhemsfeld. There is a small Rizal Park in that city where a bronze statue of Rizal stands. The street where he lived was also renamed after him. A sandstone fountain in Pastor Ullmer's house garden where Rizal lived in Wilhelmsfeld, was given to the Philippine government and is now located at Rizal Park in Manila"

to "A plaque marks the Heidelberg building where he trained with Professor Becker while in Wilhemsfeld. There is a small Rizal Park in that city where a bronze statue of Rizal stands. The street where he lived was also renamed after him. A sandstone fountain in Pastor Ullmer's house garden where Rizal lived in Wilhelmsfeld, was given to the Philippine government and is now located at Rizal Park in Manila. In Addition, one of the banks of the Neckar river in Heidelberg is named Rizal Bank. A memorial stone was placed there in 2014."^[1]" 2003:C9:7F0D:3154:F4CB:75BF:A750:6A09 (talk) 22:17, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done ◢ Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 06:22, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.heidelberg.de/hd/HD/service/14_07_2014+Gedenkstein+am+Rizal_Ufer+eingeweiht.html

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2021

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On the picture -Execution of Filipino insurgents. May I request to change the word INSURGENT? This is a defamatory word to our countrymen who fought for our freedom. Use words like Filipino patriots, and the like, instead. Thank you. Maestro2333 (talk) 13:01, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: "Filipino patriots" would almost certainly be a violation of WP:NPOV. I don't think "insurgent" is a particularly morally loaded word (let alone one that would be "defamatory" in this case) so I personally don't see a problem with it, but if you still see an issue you are welcome to discuss it on this talk page and establish consensus for a change. Given however it is language accepted at the page for the Philippine Revolution I don't think this will be likely. Volteer1 (talk) 13:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit

Jose Rizal is NOT considered as The Philippine National Hero, no law, executive order, or declaration that he is the national hero Dogelol (talk) 12:01, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly have a look at this section of the article, please. ᜋᜊᜆ᜔ (talk) 22:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2022

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I would suggest that you add a mention of a statue of José Rizal in Cådiz, Spain. This could go in the section: Sikheang (talk) 16:32, 23 September 2022 (UTC) "Monuments erected in his honor can be found in Madrid;[141] Tokyo;[142] Wilhelmsfeld, Germany; Jinjiang, Fujian, China; Chicago;[143] Jersey City; Cherry Hill Township, New Jersey; Honolulu;[144] San Diego;[145] Los Angeles including the suburbs Carson and West Covina (both near Seafood City, Mexico City, Mexico;[146] Lima, Peru;[147] Litomerice, Czech Republic;[148] Toronto;[149] Markham;[150] and Montreal, Quebec, Canada.[151]"[reply]

The statue of Rizal in Cádiz is in the Parque Alameda Apodaca. I visited it in November 2021 and have a photo which I can provide you with. [I don't think I can attach it to this message, but if I can, please let me know.]

As a source about this statue, you can go to: https://www.philembassymadrid.com/rizal-bust-inaugurated-cadiz-commemorate-11th-philippines-spain-friendship-day

Sikheang (talk) 16:32, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Pinchme123 (talk) 02:10, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2024

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change bierbrauerie to bierbrauerei 41.116.228.35 (talk) 17:53, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 13:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2024

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Fix this link for "Calamba, Laguna" in the infobox per MOS:GEOLINK. 188.27.245.209 (talk) 13:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 13:59, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2024

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In 2022 The Dutch composer Lowell Dykstra wrote a cantata for mixed choir, soloists and wind quintet, based on José Rizal's poem "Song of the wanderer" Oerkommeling (talk) 17:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 17:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All about Jose rizal

Talambuhay ni Jose Rizal 2001:FD8:2108:6DFF:ED80:AB62:F942:790E (talk) 05:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Full name

Where does this name come from? There is no academic source for it, and there is no record of him ever writing that name himself. His baptismal certificate simply lists him as "Jose Rizal Mercado". Does it come from his birth certificate, and, if so, where is it? Should this name be there or should we just put 'Jose Rizal Mercado'? — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 13:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2024

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In "Agnostiko ORIGINS" it is heavily implied that the man in the prison cell reading the journal is José Rizal. Mr. Plague is planning to break him out of his cell to use in his experiment, the events of that game happened a few days before his execution. Videogameresearcherfact (talk) 04:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 07:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link updated added images as source 103.93.223.146 (talk) 07:43, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

joserizal 112.209.185.88 (talk) 07:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2024

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In Video Game "Agnostiko ORIGINS" it is heavily implied that the man in the prison cell reading the journal is José Rizal. Mr. Plague is planning to break him out of his cell to use in his experiment,↵the events of that game happened a few days before his execution. ^[1] ^[2]

Videogameresearcherfact (talk) 04:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2024

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VES.Atilano. J (talk) 08:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 14:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.heidelberg.de/hd/HD/service/14_07_2014+Gedenkstein+am+Rizal_Ufer+eingeweiht.html

[2] ttps://www.chaptercheats.com/qna/switch/668468/agnostiko-origins-answers/262599

[3] ttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/469954-agnostiko-origins/80800344

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