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- Nicolle Verma (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article fails WP:BIO, due to insufficient reliable secondary sources about Nicolle Verma. The references are primarily promotional and fail to establish her independent notability under WP:GNG violating WP:NOTPROMO. Nxcrypto Message 15:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Powerking (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Already soft deleted once in 2012 (not eligible for G4), the only non-primary source that is given this time is [1] which is far from being in-depth. With a WP:BEFORE, the only additional source I found is [2], of which I'm not sure of the reliability. Not very optimistic for WP:GNG. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. It is certainly a well-known product in Northern Europe, but I was not able to find significant coverage of it online. Only sales sites and forum discussions. Something might be buried somewhere, maybe in trade press. Geschichte (talk) 08:22, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Inequality by Design (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Completely unsourced article that furthermore does not even seem to reflect the book's actual content. The notability of this minor book (which is just one of multiple such books with an article here!) discussing The Bell Curve is also questionable. Lamptonian (talk) 14:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Aydan Baston (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sign of notability from sources listed, and no further sources to meet WP:GNG. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Y21 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No pages named "Y21" to disambiguate Gjs238 (talk) 12:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Datamatics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 12:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Who Is Dr Who (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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My deletion proposal:
Found no evidence of notability. Only source I found discussing this album was this self-published zine.
The proposal was removed by Mushy Yank who suggested a merger instead; however, given the lack of coverage, I don't think it'd be DUE to give this any more of a place than it already has in its tiny entry in List of Doctor Who music releases. I suppose a redirect there would be appropriate. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect as suggested above or merge as I suggested myself, mentioned in Booy, M. (2012). Love and Monsters: The Doctor Who Experience, 1979 to the Present, I.B.Tauris, describing the overall content and mentioning the fact that the BBC had intended to launch a series of records.-Mushy Yank. 12:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Ram Vishwakarma (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No reliable sources are available on google, I also tried searching in Regional languages but got nothing. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Taabii (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The highlighted individual meet WP:GNG under WP:SNG. A former director of the Indian Institute of Integrative Medicine ([3]) qualify under WP:NPROF and WP:NACADEMIC (#8) criteria. In addition, a search in Google Scholar reveal several scientific articles that have been credited to or published in collaboration with the same individual ([4], [5], [6] and [7]). The article however, require improvement and addition of sources. QEnigma (talk) 15:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep. As a former director of IIIM he does not automatically qualify. The staff is about 68 PhD/Dr, with a modest budget of about $0.5M (it goes further in India). Just as a Dean at a university is not automatic, he is not -- but it is a partial notability. In terms of publications his h-factor of 62 is strong, but it is a high citation field. (The 20th person in drug discovery has an h-factor of 118, and it is more an exponential than linear relationship.) The two together just about persuade me that he passes WP:NPROF, the criteria the nom used are not really appropriate. For certain the page needs work.
- Delete: I can't find coverage that can clarify his notoriety.. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 03:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Craig Ross (darts player) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This from Stuff is clear sigcov. Further coverage from the Dominion Post and again in same indicate he's of at least regional notability. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 11:39, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Glenn Moody (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Multiple articles on glenn moody northernecho and glenn moody gazettelive searches on google plus glenn moody theguardian is a strong one tooCanary757 (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- five references added to the article now from three different sources.Canary757 (talk) 07:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Multiple articles on glenn moody northernecho and glenn moody gazettelive searches on google plus glenn moody theguardian is a strong one tooCanary757 (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per references added to article. Further coverage can be found in The Mirror (admittedly no consensus for reliability but the coverage indicates notability), Evening Gazette and a bit in the darts publication Dartn.de. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 11:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Kutay Eryoldaş (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- David Noriega (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet notability criteria under WP:AUTHOR, doesn't appear to be many secondary sources on him. jolielover♥talk 09:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Biba Apparels (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- MyG (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Reelmonk (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Licious (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Ethics of simulated suffering (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not appear to be a robust philosophical concept needing its own article. Two sources provided are self-published and not covered by reliable independent sources. The "connection to catostrphic risks" seems like WP:OR/WP:SYNTH and not directly supporting the notability of the concept itself. If anything, a brief mention of ethical concerns in simulated reality seems sufficient. ZimZalaBim talk 15:47, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think the concept is notable enough in itself. But some of it could probably be merged into the article ethics of uncertain sentience. Alenoach (talk) 17:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Fabian Roosenbrand (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- I have found a few things for this one. dartfreakz [8], this [9],
wegdamnieuws [10], aavisie [11], almelonineuws[12]. Nothing spectacular but some notability. I will have a closer look at these later before nominating a vote and will also consider any feedback.Canary757 (talk) 06:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)- These sources look minor so I am not opposing deletion unless better ones are found.Canary757 (talk) 12:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Mobile development framework (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Cruft-magnet - unsourced and out of date list containing original research. Long tagged as such and nothing has been done to address the issue. Doesn't look as if there's anything of value to preserve by moving to other articles. 10mmsocket (talk) 16:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Farakka Port (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The existence of this port is questionable due to a serious lack of sources. A Google search yields no results for the so-called "Farakka Port". The cited sources in the article refer instead to a Farakka inland waterway, used for transporting coal to the Farakka Super Thermal Power Station near the Farakka Barrage. It seems it is actually referring to a floating terminal listed here. In any case, the topic fails to meet WP:GNG. The Doom Patrol (talk) 09:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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Suggest merge some supported content to a section in Farakka. - Davidships (talk) 13:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - there is not a lot of coverage in English, but it's enough to verify, and combine with significant coverage in Bengali, and it passes GNG. I added another English language source. I've been redirecting and merging a lot of unsourced Indian-related stubs, but this is an easy keep. Bearian (talk) 11:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Hassan Gimba (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. Almost all the sources are press releases and the remaining sources focus on the ceremonial activities of the subject. Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- 2009 Aéro-Frêt An-12 crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT. Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary in nature since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. The event does not have significant, in-depth, nor sustained continued coverage with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the accident. No lasting effects or long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Think it's enough to keep. Some news, large and well-known kind of aircraft crashing with fatalities. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Whatever the aircraft type and whether the accident had casualties or not is not an argument based on Wikipedia's notability guidelines. There was news coverage, but that alone is not a reason to keep. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Out of curiosity, @Aviationwikiflight, has a final report for this accident been released yet? if there has it might determine the notability of this accident (uniqueness etc.)
- Anyways besides that, my vote as of current is a weak keep, seeing it was an illegal flight on a heavy aircraft makes it somewhat notable as illegal flights (especially on heavy aircraft such as the Antonov An-12) are generally rare and notable, the above will determine a possible sway of my vote. Lolzer3k 15:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- To my knowledge, no final report has been released (if an investigation was even started). I don’t necessarily see the release of a final report, nor the opposite, as indicative of notability since it should be common practice among investigative agencies to release them. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Whatever the aircraft type and whether the accident had casualties or not is not an argument based on Wikipedia's notability guidelines. There was news coverage, but that alone is not a reason to keep. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Biometric Consortium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable program. Per a WP:BEFORE], there is no WP:SIGCOV, only routine coverage of conference announcements. Longhornsg (talk) 05:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep I found a source like that, it is valid that it remains. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 03:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- [13] is a WP:MILL WP:BLOG and not a WP:RS to establish WP:GNG. Longhornsg (talk) 04:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Non-notable logistics warehouse for the National Security Agency. The NSA likely has hundreds of such warehouses to store equipment, most of which do not pass WP:GNG, like this one. Longhornsg (talk) 05:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge - to Hanover, Maryland where it is located - might not be enough for a standalone article, but worth mentioning on the location page. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Sources are not sufficient to meet WP:GNG. No point in a merge to the page for the town; this is a WP:MILL warehouse, one of dozens in Hanover. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Adama Joseph Adama (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A non notable article that fails WP:GNG or WP: ANYBIO. The article establishes it's Notability with promotional pieces such as this, this and this [14]. Also, with numerous press releases. Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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This non-profit organization fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:07, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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This NGO fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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This non-profit organization fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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This non-profit organization fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Another alternative is to merge with NASSCOM. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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This NGO fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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I don't see how the person is notable for anything other than marrying a film producer. A source search at this point only turned up sources about said producer [redacted]. Quick, Spot the Quetzalcoatl! (talk) 07:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Meets NACTOR: prominent roles in Coherence (film), Identical (film), The Lost Tribe (2010 film) and Grizzly Park. I must comment that the WP:BEFORE apparently consisted of removing the list of notable films and tv series where she appeared before nominating the article. Sjö (talk) 10:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NBIO, and WP:NPROF. None of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. Also, Wikipedia is not a resume hosting site WP:NOTRESUME. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The citation profile in GS[15] seems healthy (top citations 501, 413, 319, 272, 231, with a further 12 >100 citns) meeting my definition of WP:PROF by citations. There are also supposedly 12 books, with the ones listed being published by high-quality academic/general publishers, which are likely to have received sufficient reviews to meet WP:AUTHOR. Espresso Addict (talk) 07:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- 255 JSTOR hits making finding book reviews a chore but here's four to be going along with: The World Trade Organization: A Very Short Introduction JSTOR 4092662; International Trade and Developing Countries: Bargaining Coalitions in the WTO JSTOR 20097936; New Powers: How to Become One and How to Manage Them JSTOR 29777521; Deadlocks in Multilateral Negotiations. Causes and Solutions JSTOR 43122662 Espresso Addict (talk) 08:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Easily enough book reviews of enough books (now added to the article) for WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep An easy pass of WP:AUTHOR. The case for WP:PROF#C1 also appears decent; an h-index of 30 and 17 papers with triple-digit citation counts don't hurt, at least. XOR'easter (talk) 14:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP: NCORP. The article is supported by promotional and puff piece such as this and press releases such as this and this. Ibjaja055 (talk) 06:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Not notable, per above reasoning. Despite WP:RSNG saying that Blueprint is a "generally reliable" source, the source that focuses on the paper itself is very suspiciously promotional. The other two sources focus on an awards show associated with the newspaper, which I don't believe to establish notability. Upon searching, the only other mentions in notable news sources are about the paper's founder opening up a hospital, which also doesn't establish notability. Jordano53 07:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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I can't actually see a reason that McNeil is notable himself. Yes, there are a load of sources mentioning the unpleasant comments that he comes out with, but he simply seems to be someone who has tagged along with other unpleasant characters, and has been noted as such by reliable sources. Black Kite (talk) 14:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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- It clearly says in the Wikipedia guidelines if there's reliable sources about an individual, that's what determined notability. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 17:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - This is another in a long line of far-right nobodies who is only recognized for having a beef with another far-right personality. Does not satisfy WP:N, definitely does not satisfy WP:BLP. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 18:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. There's been very little discussion of specific sources, so I've gone ahead and started by making a source assessment table based on sources in the article:
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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The Kansas City Star | This is a WP:INDEPENDENT WP:NEWSORG doing its own reporting | This is a reliable WP:NEWSORG | The source is principally about the article subject. | ✔ Yes |
The Manhattan Mercury | This is an independent daily mainstream newspaper doing its own reporting. | This is a 140-year-old well-established daily newspaper; WP:NEWSORG. | This source is directly covering the article subject in a substantial way, with the whole source principally focused on the article subject. | ✔ Yes |
Anti-defamation league | Moot as not SIGCOV | Moot as not SIGCOV | He gets name-dropped once, but that's about all the coverage he gets. | ✘ No |
The Collegian (KSU) 1 | Student media. Per WP:RSSM, student media does not contribute to notability for topics related to home institutions. |
why not? | deadlink, but moot per WP:RSSM. | ✘ No |
The Collegian (KSU) 2 | Student media. Per WP:RSSM, student media does not contribute to notability for topics related to home institutions. |
Why not? | deadlink, but moot per WP:RSSM. | ✘ No |
Southern Poverty Law Center 1 | Why not? | Per WP:RSP, The Southern Poverty Law Center is considered generally reliable on topics related to hate groups and extremism in the United States. |
This coverage is principally about McNeil. | ✔ Yes |
Southern Poverty Law Center 2 | Why not? | Per WP:RSP, The Southern Poverty Law Center is considered generally reliable on topics related to hate groups and extremism in the United States. |
McNeil is not so much as mentioned by name once. | ✘ No |
Southern Poverty Law Center 3 | Why not? | Per WP:RSP, The Southern Poverty Law Center is considered generally reliable on topics related to hate groups and extremism in the United States. |
There's plenty of coverage of McNeil and Dickerman as a sort of group, but little of McNeil alone. In any case, going to be moot as WP:N notes that Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability, and we already have a contributing SPLC source above. |
? Unknown |
The Kansas City Star 2 | Independent WP:NEWSORG | A WP:NEWSORG doing its own reporting | Seems to give substantial coverage to McNeil and his activities. | ✔ Yes |
The Daily Dot's "God" blog | Sure? | While WP:DAILYDOT is MREL, but looking more broadly at the God blog archives this looks like an opinionated blog that's just hosted on the platfom. | Seems to be about McNeil and reaction to his actions. | ✘ No |
BroBible | Sure? | ~ I can't find anything in the WP:RSN archives or at WP:NPPSG, but this feel a lot like a WP:DEXERTO-level source | Seems to be about McNeil and reaction to his actions. | ~ Partial |
Inside Higher Ed | Why not? | WP:NEWSORG | We've got two paragraphs about McNeil that pass the WP:100WT for independent prose, albeit barely. | ✔ Yes |
The Kansas City Star 3 | Independent WP:NEWSORG | WP:NEWSORG | WP:NEWSORG doing their own report principally about the subject and his activities. | ✔ Yes |
Southern Poverty Law Center 4 | This is the same url as source 6 | This is the same url as source 6 | This is the same url as source 6 | ✔ Yes |
MEL Magazine | Sure? | ~ RSN archives treat this as a mixed reliability source. | Three paragraphs about McNeil and his activities, passes the WP:100WT. | ~ Partial |
Mother Jones | Why not? | Per WP:MOTHERJONES, source is WP:GREL. | Five paragraphs are given in the article to coverage of McNeil; this is clearly SIGCOV. | ✔ Yes |
Vice | Why not? | ~ The community doesn't have consensus regarding VICE's reliability. | Seems to provide significant secondary coverage of McNeil and his making allegations against Fuentes. | ~ Partial |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
- What this reveals is that, based on solely sources in the article, McNeil has received WP:SIGCOV from at least the following sources:
- The Kansas City Star: 1, 2, 3
- The Manhattan Mercury: 1
- Southern Poverty Law Center: 1, maybe 2
- Mother Jones: 1.
- This alone would easily pass WP:SIGCOV and, as there appears to be multiple events covered among these sources, this doesn't look like a WP:BLP1E/WP:BIO1E case. The additional sources that one can google regarding the McNeil-KSU football affair really do drive home that not all of his coverage is about Nick Fuentes or storming the U.S. capitol:
McNeil-KSU football affair additional sources |
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- As such, I think we have an individual here who easily passes WP:GNG, for whom no suitable merge target exists, and I think nom's contention that this is only someone who is covered in the context of Fuentes is plainly incorrect. In light of the breadth of coverage and the deep sourcing, there is nothing reasonable to do here but to keep.
- — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 19:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - thanks to Red-tailed hawk for assessing the sources. Looks like GNG and SIGCOV are clearly met. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: More about the controversial things said and the fallout than about the individual, from the sources. "Streamer says things, ruffles feathers, than fades away" seems to be the extent of what we have. Oaktree b (talk) 00:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- GNG and SIGCOV are clearly met. Reliable sources like ADL, the Kansas city star, the Manhatten Mercury, Southern poverty law center all cover this individual. This goes with Wikipedia's guidelines on notability. According with Wikipedia's guidelines, Notability isn't determined on what a certain individual is notable for, but if reliable sources cover him. However if it was the opposite, well they cover his falling out with Fuentes, His views, His association with Nick Fuentes, him being held accountable by Kansas State University for an offensive joke, him getting a girlfriend, etc. I don't even know why this is a discussion. His Wikipedia page has been up for about two years with barely anyone saying anything because it's common sense this goes with Wikipedia's guidelines. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 01:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- " Student says bad things " isn't terribly notable, this person wasn't notable before that happened. I'd be looking for extensive coverage of them before the event, which we don't seem to have. I've done things as a student and was held accountable, that's not really what we're looking for. Oaktree b (talk) 03:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Oaktree b you've might've done bad things as a student, but news sources didn't cover it. Again, Wikipedia's notability policy are if reliable sources cover something, not "this isn't something I think is news worthy or topic worthy". As for "there needs to be extensive coverage of him before the Kansas University incident", why? Why does it matter what the first news source about him said? If multiple reliable sources cover him and different incidents involving him afterwards, that goes with Wikipedia's notability policy. But here, here's a news story covering him before the Kansas University incident. https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/nicholas-fuentes-america-first-infighting also I saw ESPN cover Jaden McNeil too, multiple reliable sources cover this guy, I'm struggling to understand why this is a discussion. Wikipedia's guidelines is clear as day. Wikipedia's guidelines say nothing about if you think something's news worthy, but if news outlets consider it news worthy. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 05:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- That incident, for what it's worth, has been turned into a academic case study. It's not just that a kid said something inflammatory, it's that the incident was nationally covered and continued to receive attention in academics even after it was out of the news (in addition to the case study, described in a Ph.D. thesis). I think that reducing this to " Student says bad things " isn't terribly notable is a gross oversimplification here that misses just how big this was—and also ignores coverage in the context of other events as well. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:04, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- " Student says bad things " isn't terribly notable, this person wasn't notable before that happened. I'd be looking for extensive coverage of them before the event, which we don't seem to have. I've done things as a student and was held accountable, that's not really what we're looking for. Oaktree b (talk) 03:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- GNG and SIGCOV are clearly met. Reliable sources like ADL, the Kansas city star, the Manhatten Mercury, Southern poverty law center all cover this individual. This goes with Wikipedia's guidelines on notability. According with Wikipedia's guidelines, Notability isn't determined on what a certain individual is notable for, but if reliable sources cover him. However if it was the opposite, well they cover his falling out with Fuentes, His views, His association with Nick Fuentes, him being held accountable by Kansas State University for an offensive joke, him getting a girlfriend, etc. I don't even know why this is a discussion. His Wikipedia page has been up for about two years with barely anyone saying anything because it's common sense this goes with Wikipedia's guidelines. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 01:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per the reasons given above and on the talk page already. Two newspapers from his area discussing him, and Mother Jones and the SPLC discussing him in the context of someone else, and for an edgy remark he made, do not make him worthy of an entire article. Swinub★ 04:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Swinub as pointed out by red-tailed hawk, ESPN, Yahoo News, USA today, sports illustrated and other huge mainstream sources cover thie guy. It's not just two news papers. And he's not only mentioned in the context of Nick Fuentes and an edgy tweet he made in 2020, as pointed out by me in multiple examples earlier. And as pointed out by red-tailed hawk, he easily passes WP:GNG HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 05:38, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Every source posted by Red-tailed hawk is about the Floyd tweet and nothing more. Swinub★ 05:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Every source posted by Red-tailed hawk is about the Floyd tweet and nothing more
... no, that is patently false. SPLC covers this individual applying for and receiving Paycheck Protection Program funds, and Mother Jones doesn't so much as mention that inflammatory Tweet, but does provide significant coverage of this individual. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:57, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Every source posted by Red-tailed hawk is about the Floyd tweet and nothing more. Swinub★ 05:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Swinub as pointed out by red-tailed hawk, ESPN, Yahoo News, USA today, sports illustrated and other huge mainstream sources cover thie guy. It's not just two news papers. And he's not only mentioned in the context of Nick Fuentes and an edgy tweet he made in 2020, as pointed out by me in multiple examples earlier. And as pointed out by red-tailed hawk, he easily passes WP:GNG HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 05:38, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: From what I'm reading above, the firing is notable, I'm not sure the individual is. Could perhaps create an article about the incident itself. Oaktree b (talk) 16:55, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Oaktree b there's numerous reliable sources that cover different incidents regarding Jaden McNeil DisneyGuy744 (talk) 21:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep because of significant coverage. Look, lots of people, but especially the bad, are famous for being famous. Bearian (talk) 03:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like most of us agree it should stay DisneyGuy744 (talk) 20:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as arguments seem evenly divided between Delete and Keep. The existence of RS coverage is not in doubt but some editors argue that it isn't SIGCOV enough to establish notability. Editors are warned not to BLUDGEON this discussion and contest every opinion they disagree with.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:41, 14 December 2024 (UTC)- i think we're done here. Looks like the opposers have given up HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 20:18, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Clearly not here to build an encyclopedia. Swinub★ 22:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sw 36914 You got called out for lying in this AfD discussion. And keep trying to get me banned by saying I'm not here to build an encyclopedia, without any proof. What makes you think that's gonna work? @Liz I think we're done here. 100% of the people are not going to agree to keep the page, but an administrator gave reasons why the page should stay and showed examples on how it goes with Wikipedia's guidelines. 100% are not going to agree, but if most people do, we should end the discussion. Being here forever is pointless. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 01:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- I misread his reply and noticed my error a day later, as I'm not paying too close attention to this page. I apologize for the mistake, but it was not intentional. As for us "being done here," we're not; let other people give their input. You've given yours already. Swinub★ 04:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think we're done here HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 00:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- HumansRightsIsCool, this might be a surprise if you haven't participated in many AFDs before but the participants can't declare that a discussion is over and should be closed. An AFD discussion is closed when a closer sees that a consensus has been reached or decides, after several relistings, that no consensus is possible. In situations like this discussion, this is likely to happen if a few more editors participate in this discussion and offer their arguments. Liz Read! Talk! 06:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's been days since a new editor sent a message here. Lots of editors were showing up, but it stopped once everyone kinda realized this discussion is pointless. administrators like Red-tailed hawk gave examples on how McNeil's page goes with Wikipedia's guidelines on notability, considering how multiple reliable sources cover different incidents involving Jaden McNeil. Swinub is never going to agree the page should stay, no matter how many examples you give of this Wikipedia article going with Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Are we supposed to stay here for 3 years? Someone get a AdF closer to decide the fate of the article, not everyone's gonna agree. No matter what. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 06:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Liz explained how this works, demanding someone come in and give you satisfaction is not a good look. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 14:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- AdF? Liz Read! Talk! 06:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- think he meant Afd - articles for deletion 2603:8080:600:87B:D2F5:7B10:A18C:526E (talk) 21:21, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- AdF? Liz Read! Talk! 06:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Liz explained how this works, demanding someone come in and give you satisfaction is not a good look. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 14:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's been days since a new editor sent a message here. Lots of editors were showing up, but it stopped once everyone kinda realized this discussion is pointless. administrators like Red-tailed hawk gave examples on how McNeil's page goes with Wikipedia's guidelines on notability, considering how multiple reliable sources cover different incidents involving Jaden McNeil. Swinub is never going to agree the page should stay, no matter how many examples you give of this Wikipedia article going with Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Are we supposed to stay here for 3 years? Someone get a AdF closer to decide the fate of the article, not everyone's gonna agree. No matter what. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 06:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- HumansRightsIsCool, this might be a surprise if you haven't participated in many AFDs before but the participants can't declare that a discussion is over and should be closed. An AFD discussion is closed when a closer sees that a consensus has been reached or decides, after several relistings, that no consensus is possible. In situations like this discussion, this is likely to happen if a few more editors participate in this discussion and offer their arguments. Liz Read! Talk! 06:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think we're done here HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 00:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- I misread his reply and noticed my error a day later, as I'm not paying too close attention to this page. I apologize for the mistake, but it was not intentional. As for us "being done here," we're not; let other people give their input. You've given yours already. Swinub★ 04:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sw 36914 You got called out for lying in this AfD discussion. And keep trying to get me banned by saying I'm not here to build an encyclopedia, without any proof. What makes you think that's gonna work? @Liz I think we're done here. 100% of the people are not going to agree to keep the page, but an administrator gave reasons why the page should stay and showed examples on how it goes with Wikipedia's guidelines. 100% are not going to agree, but if most people do, we should end the discussion. Being here forever is pointless. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 01:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Clearly not here to build an encyclopedia. Swinub★ 22:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Liz: Respectfully, I do have to take issue with the relisting comment. The opposition to the notability here, as articulated by Swinub and Oaktree b, is that the sort of stuff that he has been covered for does not make him worth an article—not that WP:SIGCOV isn't met. It's essentially a set of (attempted) WP:IAR deletion !votes. And neither The Hand That Feeds You nor Black Kite have attempted to do a source-by-source analysis, and neither of them has made a substantial comment about notability after the source assessment table was dropped.
- That is in marked contrast to my keep !vote, which identified specific sources and described how each of them specifically contribute towards meeting the WP:GNG. If individuals don't believe that this person meets the WP:GNG, they are free to argue so. But I would very much like to see what they think is wrong about the source assessment table, and I'm quite saddened that nobody has articulated that here. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 21:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- At this point, I'm feeling involved here so I'll just bow out of this AFD discussion and let another closer handle this one. Liz Read! Talk! 22:17, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- i think we're done here. Looks like the opposers have given up HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 20:18, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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Non-notable person. Although he holds a high position in a large company, there is barely anything in the media about him. Kingturtle = (talk) 06:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Bickell has been covered by The Sunday Times and The Telegraph, both of which are notable sources considered to be reliable per community consensus. In addition, though no consensus has been reached on its general reliability, this piece from The Evening Standard could also arguably be considered this as well. In all three, he is primarily featured, not trivially mentioned. Because of that, I believe he meets the criteria for WP:NBIO. Jordano53 07:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Appears to be entirely promotional and has no WP:SUSTAINED notability. Amigao (talk) 05:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- This is the challenge with cryptocurrency enterprenuers. This fellow has been building and gaining recognition for it since 2017, what else is sustained notabillity? WP:SUSTAINED
- It also sufficiently satisfies WP:NOTPROMOTION. Oyindebrah (talk) 09:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: @Oyindebrah:I am still finding it very difficult to understand how this article is not promotional? Or are there any other sources apart from those listed in the article? Ok, let's take a brief look at them. Shall we?
- Source 1 is a promotional piece. The lead of the article clearly started with puffy sentences:
Danny Oyekan can be said to have the entrepreneurial spirit ingrained in him from birth.
How is that even possible? Another one:He was amongst the first wave of Bitcoin investors and is considered a pioneer in establishing the use of virtual currency in the African market.
Who named him pioneer?
- Source 1 is a promotional piece. The lead of the article clearly started with puffy sentences:
- Source 2 is unreliable and full of promotional pieces. From the first sentence
Danny Oyekan is a trailblazing tech entrepreneur, investor, passionate advocate for blockchain technology, and founding Chairman of Dan Holdings
to the lastHis journey serves as an inspiration to aspiring entrepreneurs and cryptocurrency enthusiasts, showcasing the transformative power of embracing emerging technologies and forging one's path to success
are purely promotional.
- Source 2 is unreliable and full of promotional pieces. From the first sentence
- Source 3: Error 500
- 4 and 5: promotional pieces,
Daniel Oyekan’s journey in the world of investment is rooted in his belief in the potential of new technologies and groundbreaking ideas.
I also find it very odd that two independent news media will publish the same post words for words. It can only happen if a PR is involved.
- 4 and 5: promotional pieces,
- Sources 6, 7 and 8 is about BlockFinex and the rest are press releases. Ibjaja055 (talk) 10:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I am able to access source 3 and I can confirm that it is a sponsored post. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 10:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per my comments above. Ibjaja055 (talk) 10:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Per Ibjaja055. Entry on subject is based solely on sponsored posts that are obviously not independent thus failing the general notability criteria. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 10:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Deborah L. Turbiville (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A person only notable for one event. And, per WP:CRIM, she is not well known, and the motivation for her crime does not appear unusual. {{Sam S|💬|✏️|ℹ️}} 04:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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•I agree that this page is not relevant and should be deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:4E3C:CC10:0:0:0:1F (talk) 04:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to an event-specific page. The event seems to pass WP:NCRIME guidelines, with in-depth coverage from reliable local and national news sources like CNN and NYT. While the person is not notable, I see no reason why the information about the event can't be kept. Jordano53 07:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Brian Krusz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is all routine local coverage. Subject served in the marines and owns a car wash, not enough to satisfy WP:BIO. - The literary leader of the age ✉ 03:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Tagged for multiple issues. Was previously deleted per AFD. Imcdc Contact 03:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Tagged for multiple issues for years. Imcdc Contact 03:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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It does not meet the criteria of WP:ORG or WP:GNG. The article was deleted in 2020 and recreated in 2021, but in my view, the school has not achieved sufficient notability to justify recreating the article. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 02:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - There is a ton of WP:NEWSORGINDIA to sift through but I found this. Their notability may be from being part of a diploma mill.--CNMall41 (talk) 20:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep notable diploma mill. Scammed a lot of innocent students, attracted a lot of media coverage, and even military official received its degree to become NAB director. Very notable per CNMall41. 103.194.93.34 (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Jalal khel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another administrator said that a clan (tribe) is not subject to WP:A7. I disagree, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm nominating it for deletion. I have no idea how to evaluate whether a clan meets WP:GNG. I suspect, though, that others in the community are more knowledgeable. Bbb23 (talk) 00:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment The above article mentions Jalal Khel or Jalalkhel clan is a sub-division of Mahsud Wazir larger
Pashtun tribe. In my brief search, I saw this.....Mehsuds and Wazirs, the King-makers in a game of thrones on khyber.org website...Ngrewal1 (talk) 06:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge this stub with Mahsud if the information in it is verifiable. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:38, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Terry Blade (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nominated on behalf of a non-autoconfirmed user claiming to be the article subject:
Does not meet Wikipedia criteria for notability BladeTerry (talk) 01:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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I am the subject of this article, Terry Blade.
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I am the subject of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Blade. I don't think it meets the notability criteria for an article on Wikipedia. The article is semi-protected. I'd like to request that an editor nominate it for deletion please? BladeTerry (talk) 01:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. There are enough sources here to merit an article per WP:GNG. The context of this AFD attempt is that I created a sockpuppet case page at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Roberteditor, tying together a bunch of IPs and some socks that have been editing the Terry Blade bio and related pages. Two hours and change later, User:BladeTerry registered the username to delete the bio. My guess is that the history of socking is what BladeTerry wants deleted. Binksternet (talk) 08:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Not the best quality article for sure, and some of the cited sources are better than others. But based on WP:BLP, Blade seems to meet the criteria of having multiple reliable independent sources. Him not wanting an article isn't a criteria for BLP. guninvalid (talk) 11:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I referenced the wrong part of BLP, my bad, but my argument still stands. Whether he likes it or not, this guy is a WP:PUBLICFIGURE and should be treated as one. If there are specific allegations or specific sections of the article that are undercited, those can be removed. But blanket removing the article in whole is inexcusable. guninvalid (talk) 02:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Centipede! (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Simple google news search yield one result related to the movie Here from Yahoo News. It both fails WP:NFP and WP:NFO. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 02:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Added some sources. See for yourself.-Mushy Yank. 02:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: In addition to the sources that have been added, there is another review here. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 07:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Examples of civil disobedience (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a WP:INDISCRIMATE list of random examples of a very large concept, organized by country with some extra random sections on religion and climate change... it's a mess that is effectively a random list of poorly organized examples from the large category. It makes about as much sense as having examples of science fiction books or examples of famous people articles. If scholars discuss particularly famous cases of civil disobedience, those can and should be first covered in the main article, and split only here if we have too many such examples (which is not the case, this is just linked bizarrely from the "Choices" section of the main article, which is not about examples but about aspects of theory). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Examples of feudalism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This seems to be a WP:CONTENTFORK of feudalism, with seemlingly randomly chosen case studies (WP:INDISCRIMIANTE), haphazardly grouped (particularly considering the weirdly named section "Modern traces" which seems to be "random stuff that did not fit into the two other sections"). There is no need for such an article to exist; at best it can be redirected/merged to the parent article (WP:ATD-R, WP:ATD-M). The main article on feudalism is actually not too long, and is missing a 'by country' overview, which seems to be the way this organized, so merge might be best. If kept as a separate article (but why?), this needs to be renamed, although I am not sure how (Feudalism by country?). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- I was somewhat astonished upon checking the revision history statistics to find myself top editor by character count, despite having edited only one section over the summer (and probably due to the citations I added). This article already seems like it was split off from Feudalism as a daughter article, which I think it sort of might have been?I think the main problem here (this topic) is that feudalism is a term with a specific technical meaning, but its meaning has been broadened over the years to apply to a number of systems of territorial administration that are not technically feudal, but where the feudalism label can act as a useful heuristic. The main article doesn't do a great job differentiating what feudalism ism and isn'tm, and the article under discussion here serves that purpose, as well as hosting a bunch of hatnotes that would probably otherwise end up in a list article somewhere or in Feudalism#See also.I'm not 100% on straight merging into Feudalism: I think the examples of legit, consensus feudal societies could be worked into the main article, but without counterexamples of not-quite-feudal societies (which don't really belong in the main article), it will act as a magnet for that stuff. I'm real big on the concept of excellent list articles (like Infrastructure of the Brill Tramway), which I propose at every major notability discussion about our surfeit of microstubs (like WP:LUGSTUBS et seq.), and this article has the potential to become a great list article. It almost is, except for the title and structure. I also recognise I absolutely will not have the time to restructure it into an excellent list article unless this discussion is relisted at least four times. So I could see any of the following actions: retitle, partial merge, complete merge, temporary redirect until it can be sorted out, or keep.For now, Folly Mox (talk) 15:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Examples of in vitro transdifferentiation by lineage-instructive approach (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This appears well-referenced, but no reference mentions the term "lineage-instructive" in their heading. It is not obvious this meets WP:NLIST. Further, there is no criteria given for why those particular examples are included (WP:INDISCRIMINATE). Perhaps per WP:ATD-R this could be merged and redirected to transdifferentiation, which is not too long. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Unreferenced arbitrary (WP:INDISCRIMINATE) collection of examples. Fails WP:V, WP:GNG. Also seems redundant to FA Group (mathematics); even the lead says plainly: "examples of groups in mathematics are given on Group (mathematics). Further examples are listed here". If kept, this probably should be renamed to List of groups in mathematics, but it would need referencing and sources showing how it could meet WP:NLIST, and clear rationale why some examples are shown here and not in the main prose FA article. Do we need a technically infinite list of examples of groups? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Steve Nesser (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This appears to be a borderline WP:NBIO case that falls just short of passing the criteria. The subject does have some of his own accomplishments in the realm of skateboarding, but the coverage seems insufficient by WP:SIGCOV standards. Source 1 is a passing mention of him in a list of names, source 2 is dead and I couldn't find an archive, source 3 is an interview so not independent, and the only other sources are dead links to what appears to be his defunct website. A WP:BEFORE search led me to minor coverage from skateboarding magazines, and more interviews and primary sources. This guy does appear closer to his own notability than the limited sourcing on this page would portend, but I couldn't find enough coverage of him in my BEFORE search to quite hit the threshold of WP:GNG. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. No credible secondary sourcing, doesn't meet WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 02:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Looking at the sources, it does not pass WP:GNG even. Mostly all the sources available on google are discussing her replacement in a notable show, see [16], [17], [18]. Taabii (talk) 13:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast: as the nominator indicates she is best known for that role and coverage attesting of that exists. -Mushy Yank. 10:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast. Not opposed to Delete. RangersRus (talk) 14:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The actress has worked in multiple notable TV shows, a primary Google search results indicate significant coverage in reliable sources. Zuck28 (talk) 15:37, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Zuck28 Thanks for your comment, for a better understanding i appreciate you to please present those RS here? Happy editing. Taabii (talk) 18:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have added a few sources and updated the article, I will try to improve to the article in my free time.
- Zuck28 (talk) 18:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Zuck28 Thanks for your comment, for a better understanding i appreciate you to please present those RS here? Happy editing. Taabii (talk) 18:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Now adequately sourced.--Ipigott (talk) 08:47, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Ipigott Most of the sources are Interviews, kindly check it. — Taabii (talk) 12:57, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- The sources are quite poor and not independent of the subject with claims and interviews. Subject fails the criteria for WP:NACTOR who did not have significant roles in "multiple" notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions; or made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. RangersRus (talk) 16:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The sources are reliable, and the subject is well-researched with verifiable claims.
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- Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast: Has only one notable role, so it's more appropriate to redirect, fails WP:NACTOR. I'm also open to deletion, as most sources are interviews (decent coverage, yet do not establish notability).--— MimsMENTOR talk 18:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. No valid secondary sources to prove WP:GNG. TitCrisse (talk) 02:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)